Disclaimer

This is MY Viewer, i decide which feature i want to add and which to remove, i share this Viewer to show the world that user base size is not important, i do rate quality by effort, thought and love put into the project, not some rough estimated numbers. I consider feature requests only if i you can name proper valid reasons i can agree on. It is my unpaid time i'm putting into this project, i'm not here to cater to every Joe's desires.

Friday, August 23, 2013

Alpha 2.3.1

A little bit late but better late than never!

2.3.1 is here to quick fix a bunch of reported problems, mainly your Voice problem.

It also fixes the Inventory sort buttons beeing unfunctional, show parcel properties/coordinates missing in topbar menu aswell as the whole mini locationbar which i was originally going to remove entirely aswell as the ability to disable the favoritesbar and removes the worn tab aswell as the misleading 2x/4x/8x/16x Antialiasing types which don't work as FXAA only knows On and Off in SL and it also removes the RLVa menu as RLVa is NOT part of this Viewer anymore, for now.

As always, be sure you delete your settings when coming from pre-2.3.0 versions.


BTW, the world is a Torus type and i found it's end.





Changelog:


2.3.1 Alpha

Added: Show Parcel Properties and Show Coordinates menu entries to the Topbar menu.
Fixed: Inventory Sort-by functions.
Fixed: Mini-location bar layout and made it correctly push and retract the FUI.
Changed: German Item Count display styles.
Removed: Inventory Worn tab, for now.
Removed: 2/4/8/16x AA and replaced it with On/Off.
Removed: RLVa Menu from "Dragon" Main Menu, for now.

38 comments:

  1. How high did you go to see the world end? Must have been at least more than 5k meters! :o I wanna see it now dammit! Plus Black Dragon Viewer= Awesome stuff as always! Been a fan since Niran's Viewer and as you update this one, It's a easier to modify viewer and can't wait to see what more you do with it :) Keep it up Niran! <3

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  2. OH and a bug to report: Changing outfits in My Outfits folder causes myself and other avatars around me to invisible. Same for other avatars when they change their outfits in front of me

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    1. Sounds more like you hitting the maximum 200m² attachment surface limit.

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  3. It was present on 2.3.0 I can no longer right click on my mesh clothing and detach. If I edit something and then proceed to click on my mesh I can then detach it.

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    1. Nothing has been changed with right click. It is known that you cannot right click rigged meshes directly on their obvious positions. It's like that in all Viewers, in LL i can't select any rigged meshes and in my Viewer i can't select my glasses.

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    2. Hmm I will check again. I know I could do it. Maybe I'm missing the point where I need to click

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    3. I logged into a different viewer and I can right click and select detach. Give firestorm a try.

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    4. There's always the old trick: Right Click -> Edit anything you can normally edit, then click the worn mesh.

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  4. Thanks for the prompt fixes, Niran. You're probably the most attentive Devs when it comes to listening to your fanbase. Keep up the great work!
    -Calina-

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  5. I hate to be a bother but my voice still isn't working. Everything allowed through firewall, checked all the usual setting... and yet nothing.

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    1. Idk. Use the voice files from another Viewer or an older version.

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    2. Spent a few hours doing that. Fresh installs, moving voice files. Everything worked everywhere else but Voice, it even showed i had the proper settings, yet they were just greyed out. Yes, voice was on, unmuted and allowed through every security and firewall I have.

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    3. Fixed. Randomly. I'm not even gonna question it hehe.

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  6. Just a note for those of you out there who are possibly running windows 8.1 preview and an AMD Radeon Graphics card. (Please refrain from posting on how you believe NVIDIA to be better than AMD etc, this isn't a bragging rights post.)

    Anyway back to the topic:- AMD have bought out 13.8 Beta Drivers for Windows 8.1 preview (They are NOT the same as the 13.8 Beta2 drivers on game.amd that is for windows 8). If you try and install these drivers they will work find until you try and load Second Life (Black Dragon for sure, possibly Niran's (which won't matter soon) don't know on any other viewer.) The viewer will load and you can log in as soon as it seems you are in world and everything is load, SL will freeze and cease working.

    The message you get will be that something has gone wrong with the dll file (atioglxx.dll) bummer.... However this is easily fixed. If you search your C:\ for said dll file you will see it is in windows\SysWOW64 (64bit) and I guess SysWOW (32bit), and also it's in Windows\Last Good\SysWoW64.

    The version in SysWOW64 will be dated (last modified) 22.06.13,(20.3MB) the version hopefully in your Last Good\SysWOW64 will be 06/06/13 (20MB), or in fact any earlier version of said .dll.

    Simply copy the previous version into SysWOW and overwrite the newest one. :) Second Life then carries on in it's own lovely way. I agree this isn't the best way to do it, and I have no idea what this particular .dll does as I've never really gotten that deep into drivers, but it allows you to use the latest stuff without worrying that SL is going to throw a fit.

    Hope this helps a few out there.

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  7. I love this viewer so far. Looks amazing, just AMAZING. I don't think Niran gives a damn about opinions, but really I enjoy this viewer and hope it stays public.

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  8. this update ive had nothign but issues with, when i first installed i logged on and was only getting 0.7 FPS, so i did a clean install. same thing... so i rebooted. it worked for about a day and a half at its NORMAL expected frame rate of around 40-60, now it is back down to 0.5 ish. clearing cache, reinstalling and rebooting do not fix this isue... this is not a issue with my PC or lack of hardware i can assure you.
    also viewing profiles also does not work. though im much more pleased with the chat interface XP

    AMD phenom !! 6 core @ 3.3Ghz
    12GB ddr3 ram @ 2000 Mhz
    Nvidia GTX660 Ti @ 1600 Mhz and 2 GB mem.

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    1. Driver issue maybe, did you update them recently? I remember problems with some driver versions, not sure which again would have to check my log to see.

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    2. I'm noticing an increasing number of logins with a newly fetching Inventory. Inventory fetching will drastically decrease your framerate. Don't be surprised if the first start or every login after a cache clear is bogging down as it may be related to your Inventory beeing fetched. Since i rebased on LL Viewer the Viewer seems to automatically start fetching the Inventory which Nirans Viewer didn't even tho it used the same code for Inventory.

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    3. I saw some issues with Nvidia Powermizer and the SL viewer lately. However 0.7 FPS is much more than just that.

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    4. I would guess its a combination of multiple (possible) problems.

      1. NVidia Powermizer.
      2. Inventory fetching.
      3. Busted NVidia GPU Profile settings.
      4. Drivers.
      5. SIM and/or sorroundings (griefers, graphics crashers etc)
      6. Busted Viewer settings.
      7. Memory overload (like my GTX 460 has)

      and maybe other things i've missed, check these.

      a GTX 660TI should be a whole tick faster than my card and shouldn't have the FPS drop issues on texture memory heavy avatars like my GPU has...

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  9. Its nice viewer and layout, Firestorm lite. Sadly, one of the viewers for photographers is nearing its final days. The UI Niran built was ahead of its time, and made the job of a photographer much easier. All dead now. Sad.

    BD is nice, if you just want a simple and clean basic viewer. Oh well, It is Niran's private venture and no one pays him for it, it is what it is

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  10. having a problemwith a digs dock. The textures look destroyed in BD but look normal in another viewer. They seem out of alignment for the product.

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  11. Hopeful all those missing features will be incorporated as well as the old Ui!

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  12. Any reason for dropping RLV? It was a nice Feature and i will miss it.

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    1. Niran can better answer this, but my impression was that the lack of RLVa is temporary as Niran concentrates on just trying to make the viewer work around the nonsense LL has tossed at us lately.

      At least, I hope it's temporary. Seeing as how LL has stalled on experience tools, RLV is the best and only option for interactive game design functionality in SL.

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    2. RLVa will be back at a time when i think it works flawlessly with everything. That might take a bit.

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  13. Hello:

    I am a user of the Black Dragon Viewer and I love it. It has good graphics without affecting the performance of the team and the music of the home is beautiful, I always listen this song until the end. The only thing that missing fact is that the interface can not be adjusted as in other viewers (for example, the Firestorm Viewer)...

    A good work, and keep it :)

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    1. That's because i'm planning to have less customization options for the main UI this time AND the Viewer is new 95% of all the planned stuff is still missing.

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  14. I guess we will have to wait till Catznip team releases their Materials and Chui ready version (Hopeful a much better 1 by then!).
    Or Niran adopts the original Marine's Kelly RLV instead!
    The only viewers so far with materials and Rlv use it (Cool Sl viewer and Marine Kelly 1!)

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    1. No freaking way. No Marine's RLV. I'm not interested in crawling in Marine's ass so she doesn't act like a selfish bitch (sorry about that but all i have seen of Marine so far is that she's really bitchy about her RLV code and most people don't seem to like her) not to mention that her Viewer was always the most unstable Viewer of ALL. She didn't even fix the Mouselook deferred problems which were caused by the crapy default LL Topbar which resizes the rendering scene every time the UI is hidden (in Mouselook as example) often causing problems and even blackscreen, i'm not sure but as far as i can tell, she STILL hasn't changed that.

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  15. Voice doesn't work? That's an awesome feature. Leave it as is :-). "

    Hardware Requirements (recommended):
    A Brain."

    You're asking a lot there aren't you? lol

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  16. I'd love to use BD as default but my computer cannot yet handle advanced lighting, so I was wondering if anyone would be willing to help me with the darkness it has when advanced lighting is off. In Nirans, I don't recall the exact name, but I could choose "Disabled" vs/or Gammit, etc to fix this (again, I can't remember the exact names of the options, I just remember that it was selectable via drop menu). In BD, it has only two options and neither of them correct how thick the darkness is of my avatar and surroundings. I'd tinker with gamma and such, but I can't tell what looks "normal", because I'd like a standard non-deferred experience, if possible. I hope that was enough info to make sense.

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    1. There is no Gamma Correction option anymore since Materials incorperates Gamma Correction by default, Materials needs Gamma Correction to properly function therefor it cannot be disabled. Also Color Correction doesn't work without Deferred, so that one isn't the problem maker either. Since a few Materials update the World seems darker, in Deferred too i can't do anything against it other than accepting it or overplaying it with Tone Mapping and Color Correction which were already tweaked to be brighter than usual so this darkening effect isn't noticable anymore.

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  17. sorry but can you fix the issue thats takes whole month with no fix with my ati graphic

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  18. can you please fix the issue with ati graphic ? it takes whole month and no changes

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  19. I don't even know what your problems are...also i don't support ATi, its just a bonus that it might work (or not)

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