Black Dragon is MY Viewer, i decide which feature i want to add and which to remove, i share this Viewer to show the world that user base size is not important, i do rate quality by effort, thought and love put into the project, not some rough estimated numbers. I consider feature requests only if i you can name proper valid reasons i can agree on. It is my (unpaid) time i'm putting into this project, i'm not here to cater to every Joe's desires.
Wednesday, May 22, 2024
Black Dragon Viewer 64x - Update 5.1.3 "Birthday Dragon"
Happy Birthday to me!
Also one year ago is when i released 4.3.2, the last pre-PBR update. Coincidence? I think not!
Today I came here to ask for help regarding the constant blurring textures, and when I saw that there was a new version, I installed it to see if the problem would be solved. However, the problem persists, and in addition the HUDS constantly stop working . The new slider system is terrible! Did people really ask for this?
I went back to the previous version 5.1.2, but the problem with blurry textures is unbearable. I apply "refresh texture" constantly, and a few seconds later textures blur again. Is there a way to fix this?
Constant texture blurring means you are running out of viewer-allocated texture memory (VRAM). You can try setting your texture memory setting higher but it should be set to Unlimited by default already, if it isn't it might help. Note that Unlimited simply means it will attempt to take as much memory as your GPU can supply, if your GPU simply cannot supply enough VRAM for the Viewer to hold all textures it will do the texture blurring thing. It has been a known issue for a long time (previously LL Viewer specific because they didn't allow more than 1GB to be set) but nowadays its becoming a bigger issue again because with PBR and Materials we are now applying 2-3 times as many textures to objects. From my own testings and what i commonly see you'll need at LEAST 4GB VRAM (free and not being used by anything else like your OS, browser or programs) and somewhere between 6GB and 8GB to make sure it should never happen that you see texture blurring. Refresh Texture does not help in the case that you run out of texture memory.
I'll have a look at the HUD issues, they might be caused by the invisible objects fix, i might have forgotten to cleanup something.
People did not ask specifically for this slider system, they asked for reducing the precision or range in the Poser sliders, with this system being completely optional i don't see the problem, you don't have to use it and its solely meant for people who don't know you can simply type in the value or use the arrow keys for precise movements. What exactly is terrible about it? It does exactly what its meant to do, you hold down CTRL and your slider movement is divided by 10 (in other words giving you 10 times finer movement). You set a value close to what you want, and then drag the slider and hold CTRL to finetune from there.
LL believes this to be an accidental bug with Vram thrashing being worked on in Maint A; plausibly hold off digging too deeply until that's fixed. Short term, a viewer reboot would often fix but sometimes a location has enough vram usage to trigger it reliably no matter what til it's fixed.
I also get this problem, had to stop using the viewer even though it's been my sole go-to since it first came out and I have supported it on patreon forever. I'll still support it for now but I can't currently use it because textures simply don't load. Making do with firestorm for now, but what can you do.
The problem with the cache started when Niran decided to try to reduce the login time, a few versions ago. Since then every time I exit the viewer the cache is emptied, and every time I return I have to wait for the cache to reload for a long time. Annoying!
Why is anyone complaining about the sliders I love them it makes it so much easier to make poses one thing I miss is being able to have another avi pose with it but I did check out firestorms PBR but it was eh I like Black dragon better and it's hard to go back to firestorm as I've been using this as my daily over all who knows why they just released pbr for there stuff but you know what they say mimicry is the greatest form of flattery
Respect Niran's work. He has no obligation to do anything for you for free, besides, saying that the viewer is garbage is a lie that just is no greater than your ignorance.
Correction, the asshole who made this Viewer hates the loudmouth, wanna-be, selfish shits that abuse and work under the banner of LGBT to further their own shitty agenda to grant them more special rights and essentially do exactly the opposite of what the whole point of LGBT is all about and then gather idiotic white-knights like you around themselves to protect their nonsense, these people are also (currently) commonly known as the LGBTQIA2S+ "movement".
I do the only right thing and not care about whether you are gay, lesbian, trans or bi... or black, white, religious or not, male or female or both. I do however care if your entire personality revolves around your sexuality or your social gender or your race or your color or your religion and you start and end every one of your sentences with your gender identity, pronouns, race, color or whatever the fuck else you think you can shove down everyone elses throat.
If i had even the slightest issue with trans people i'd have to rid 2 of my best friends. If i had an issue with your sexuality, i'd have to rid basically 95% of all people and friends i know (since most of them are furries and we all know that they are rarely ever straight). If i had an issue with your color or race or whatever you want to call it, i'd have to get rid of a bunch of good friends not to mention i wouldn't be able to even walk to the goddamn fucking store without probably having to kill myself seeing how many black people run around here.
But i suppose its easier to repeat some bs other people chewed for you than actually forming your own thoughts and apply some critical thinking. People like you are the very reason i hate these wanna-be movements that publicly see themselves as the good guys, between your own ignorance and stupidity and their manipulation and brainwashing you can't see that you are quite literally attacking the very people who are FOR the very people these shitheads claim to support, ultimately turning them away and making a lot of people really pissed and sick of LGBT (and others) as a whole. I'm speaking from experience, i was there too until someone nice enough actually explained that LGBT is not the same as LGBTQIA2S+ nor is the later one an evolution of the first. LGBT are the people you so desperately seemingly claim to support, the ones i actually like and support, wheras LGBTQIA2S+ is simply just brainwashing lead by stupid, ugly, self-hating people using the cover of LGBT as an excuse to push their nonsense on everyone else and gain special rights and treatment over other people.
Hello Mr Niran I got the problem after update to 5.1.3. Everytime start the program, my Black Dragon always crash. Please Help me and what should I do? Thank You Very Much.
Same here, using Parallels to run the program on Mac via Windows 11, no previously downloaded versions of Black Dragon. Keeps crashing at "Initializing texture cache." Is there any possible fixes for this issue Niran?
No idea. Sounds like an incompatibility with Parallels. Also Windows 11 is untested and any updates for it may or may not break the Viewer at any time. I use Windows 10.
If you are on Windows NATIVELY and you are crashing after updating you may need to manually clean install the Viewer, the FAQ should have an instruction on how to do that. Installing 5.x into 4.x folder will keep some leftovers from 4.x that will cause 5.x to crash.
Today I came here to ask for help regarding the constant blurring textures, and when I saw that there was a new version, I installed it to see if the problem would be solved. However, the problem persists, and in addition the HUDS constantly stop working . The new slider system is terrible! Did people really ask for this?
ReplyDeleteI went back to the previous version 5.1.2, but the problem with blurry textures is unbearable. I apply "refresh texture" constantly, and a few seconds later textures blur again. Is there a way to fix this?
Constant texture blurring means you are running out of viewer-allocated texture memory (VRAM). You can try setting your texture memory setting higher but it should be set to Unlimited by default already, if it isn't it might help. Note that Unlimited simply means it will attempt to take as much memory as your GPU can supply, if your GPU simply cannot supply enough VRAM for the Viewer to hold all textures it will do the texture blurring thing. It has been a known issue for a long time (previously LL Viewer specific because they didn't allow more than 1GB to be set) but nowadays its becoming a bigger issue again because with PBR and Materials we are now applying 2-3 times as many textures to objects. From my own testings and what i commonly see you'll need at LEAST 4GB VRAM (free and not being used by anything else like your OS, browser or programs) and somewhere between 6GB and 8GB to make sure it should never happen that you see texture blurring. Refresh Texture does not help in the case that you run out of texture memory.
DeleteI'll have a look at the HUD issues, they might be caused by the invisible objects fix, i might have forgotten to cleanup something.
People did not ask specifically for this slider system, they asked for reducing the precision or range in the Poser sliders, with this system being completely optional i don't see the problem, you don't have to use it and its solely meant for people who don't know you can simply type in the value or use the arrow keys for precise movements. What exactly is terrible about it? It does exactly what its meant to do, you hold down CTRL and your slider movement is divided by 10 (in other words giving you 10 times finer movement). You set a value close to what you want, and then drag the slider and hold CTRL to finetune from there.
LL believes this to be an accidental bug with Vram thrashing being worked on in Maint A; plausibly hold off digging too deeply until that's fixed. Short term, a viewer reboot would often fix but sometimes a location has enough vram usage to trigger it reliably no matter what til it's fixed.
DeleteI also get this problem, had to stop using the viewer even though it's been my sole go-to since it first came out and I have supported it on patreon forever. I'll still support it for now but I can't currently use it because textures simply don't load. Making do with firestorm for now, but what can you do.
DeleteThe problem with the cache started when Niran decided to try to reduce the login time, a few versions ago. Since then every time I exit the viewer the cache is emptied, and every time I return I have to wait for the cache to reload for a long time. Annoying!
DeleteWhy is anyone complaining about the sliders I love them it makes it so much easier to make poses one thing I miss is being able to have another avi pose with it but I did check out firestorms PBR but it was eh I like Black dragon better and it's hard to go back to firestorm as I've been using this as my daily over all who knows why they just released pbr for there stuff but you know what they say mimicry is the greatest form of flattery
DeleteCongratulations! I love this viewer <3
ReplyDeleteYour viewer looks like garbage and I had to stop using it because you keep making it worse. By the way, go fuck yourself.
ReplyDeleteRespect Niran's work. He has no obligation to do anything for you for free, besides, saying that the viewer is garbage is a lie that just is no greater than your ignorance.
DeleteYou are a rude and sick person.
This POS doesn't deserve respect
DeleteTransphobic piece of shit
ReplyDeletePerhaps someone here is dissatisfied with themselves.
DeleteNo it's because the asshole who made this program hates trans people. Stay in your lane
DeleteCorrection, the asshole who made this Viewer hates the loudmouth, wanna-be, selfish shits that abuse and work under the banner of LGBT to further their own shitty agenda to grant them more special rights and essentially do exactly the opposite of what the whole point of LGBT is all about and then gather idiotic white-knights like you around themselves to protect their nonsense, these people are also (currently) commonly known as the LGBTQIA2S+ "movement".
DeleteI do the only right thing and not care about whether you are gay, lesbian, trans or bi... or black, white, religious or not, male or female or both. I do however care if your entire personality revolves around your sexuality or your social gender or your race or your color or your religion and you start and end every one of your sentences with your gender identity, pronouns, race, color or whatever the fuck else you think you can shove down everyone elses throat.
If i had even the slightest issue with trans people i'd have to rid 2 of my best friends. If i had an issue with your sexuality, i'd have to rid basically 95% of all people and friends i know (since most of them are furries and we all know that they are rarely ever straight). If i had an issue with your color or race or whatever you want to call it, i'd have to get rid of a bunch of good friends not to mention i wouldn't be able to even walk to the goddamn fucking store without probably having to kill myself seeing how many black people run around here.
But i suppose its easier to repeat some bs other people chewed for you than actually forming your own thoughts and apply some critical thinking. People like you are the very reason i hate these wanna-be movements that publicly see themselves as the good guys, between your own ignorance and stupidity and their manipulation and brainwashing you can't see that you are quite literally attacking the very people who are FOR the very people these shitheads claim to support, ultimately turning them away and making a lot of people really pissed and sick of LGBT (and others) as a whole. I'm speaking from experience, i was there too until someone nice enough actually explained that LGBT is not the same as LGBTQIA2S+ nor is the later one an evolution of the first. LGBT are the people you so desperately seemingly claim to support, the ones i actually like and support, wheras LGBTQIA2S+ is simply just brainwashing lead by stupid, ugly, self-hating people using the cover of LGBT as an excuse to push their nonsense on everyone else and gain special rights and treatment over other people.
👏👏👏 Niran, I'm typing this with my feet, because my hands are clapping for you. I agree with you on EVERYTHING.
DeleteAYOO LET HIM COOK
DeleteNIRAN KINDA SPITTIN FACTS ATM.
It's funny how the people shit talking always hide behind an anonymous account.
DeleteHello Mr Niran
ReplyDeleteI got the problem after update to 5.1.3. Everytime start the program, my Black Dragon always crash. Please Help me and what should I do? Thank You Very Much.
I'm Already fix this. Thank You.
DeleteHow did you fix it?
DeleteAfter update to 5.1.3, every time start the program, Black Dragon always crashes after 'Initializing Texture Cache'. Thanks in advance.
ReplyDeleteSame here, using Parallels to run the program on Mac via Windows 11, no previously downloaded versions of Black Dragon. Keeps crashing at "Initializing texture cache." Is there any possible fixes for this issue Niran?
DeleteNo idea. Sounds like an incompatibility with Parallels. Also Windows 11 is untested and any updates for it may or may not break the Viewer at any time. I use Windows 10.
DeleteIf you are on Windows NATIVELY and you are crashing after updating you may need to manually clean install the Viewer, the FAQ should have an instruction on how to do that. Installing 5.x into 4.x folder will keep some leftovers from 4.x that will cause 5.x to crash.
DeleteI downloaded it but I can't run it
ReplyDeletehappy blated birthday
ReplyDeleteI'm here just to read the comments. https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.VEUUAdUsDdL-nuV1KFfVPAAAAA
ReplyDelete