In the light of recent events on my Discord I feel like it is important to reiterate and clear up what I stand for, what I do and what I don't
It came to my attention that I'm once again being attacked and framed by people with malicious intent for what is solely and exclusively my opinion and nothing but my personal opinion.
An opinion which anyone is free to have, regardless of whether others agree with it or not, so is the nature of opinions, they differ.
Attacking, harassing, insulting and witch hunting because someone does not agree with your opinion or view on a specific topic is unacceptable although sometimes unavoidable, we are human after all, we get emotional and we make mistakes, this does not exclude me, I certainly made mistakes too.
One of these mistakes, that I keep repeating is talking about a specific part of a group of people but not making it clear enough that what was said is solely and exclusively meant for that specific group of people, making it look like I'm generalizing when I'm not.
This hasn't been the first time and will certainly not be the last time this happens, over the years I have tried remedying this by describing the group of people as good as possible and attempting to make it clear when I am talking about a specific type of person or a whole community.
Obviously this hasn't worked out or at least not enough, innocent people still feel insulted at times and I'd like to apologize for those cases in which I have seemingly lashed out at people that were not my target.
Another one that started this whole situation is my lack of knowledge of the English language, due to my own language (German) sporting only a single word for both "gender" and "sex", both of which are terms referring to different things in English, there has never been a differentiation between these two for me, it was never necessary because it never played any role in how I approach and treat a person.
So when I referred to "gender", what I actually meant was "sex" or the biological "gender" you were born as. This caused confusion and started this drama, again this was not my intent and I'm sorry if it insulted innocent people.
Despite making these mistakes and repeating some of them to various degrees I can assure you that I hold very deer to my standards and how I treat people, regardless of my opinions or world views.
Anyone who comes to me asking me for help, be it a friend, random person, even someone who does not like me, will get the same treatment, everyone will be helped to the best of my ability.
Anyone who does not believe this can see an ever increasing amount of proof every day on my Discord, in the SL Forums and here on my blog. Obviously you can't see what great lengths I go inworld when someone IM's me privately but I can promise that anyone has gotten as much help as I could provide.
Some issues required making updates, some were fixable right away. Some issues however remain still unfixed and are either being worked on or are simply out of my ability to fix. Despite my best attempts i simply cannot help everyone.
The same goes for chatting with me, talking to me is like talking to a mirror. I treat everyone equally. This does not mean that I'm not free of being a human, I get emotional at times, angry or even feel insulted, just like you do.
But again I can assure you that regardless of how our conversations go, no matter how lengthy, controversial or argumentative they get, I do not think of you as a lesser person or treat you different unless you do so first.
This is something that is not immediately apparent and also requires having a lot of patience with me, I'm well aware of that but all I ask you is to have the same patience as I have with everyone else. I'm willing to ask people and let them state or clarify their side and I'm always open to hear new views, regardless of whether I can agree to them or not.
You can see proof of me being open for discussion of any kind on the Discord, I do not censor people's opinion and I do not shoot them down or stop said conversation unless it goes completely out of whack and turns into a insult fest for everyone.
I sound like a broken record repeating this but to put all above once again into one condensed sentence. I can assure you that regardless of my opinions, my world views, experiences, often even past interactions, your opinions, your religion, your ethnicity, your gender and sex, your backstory or anything of that kind I treat you the same until you give me a reason to treat you differently, this almost always means you will have to do the first step, you decide how I will treat you as a person.
Nah, fuck you you transphobic biggot, all your post boils down to is "I have learned nothing, but also don't harass other people just because I have learned nothing."
ReplyDeleteI hope you lose all your code you piece of shit.
I think you need to read this again, maybe more than once. You clearly did not understand what I wrote nor what the intention of the post is. This post is not here to magically heal all wounds, it is not here to undo what I said, it is solely here to apologize to those that have gotten into the crossfire of what I said and assure everyone that what I said does not impact how I treat at firs. Those who show decency and understanding, know that you can say and think a lot but what truly makes a man at the end of the day are his actions. And if this post has proven anything, it is that I'm capable of both standing my ground and admit that I made mistakes, for the rest of the proof you'd have to actually care and go look but I guess that is not in your interest, you'd see that you are wrong.
DeleteFrom your short interaction it is clear that you do not understand that words and actions are entirely different things nor do you know when someone is transphobic (or a biggot), which you would have known, is not true if you actually read both this post and what I've said on Discord and understood what I've said (and once again assured here).
You are doing more for this community than anyone hunting fake internet points are doing and you didn't do anything wrong at all.
DeleteIt's pretty sad that the easiest way to motivate people on here is giving them a hint at being able to damage someone somehow. That's exactly what's happening here towards you.
I know you make this viewer first and foremost for personal reasons but it's still great that you make it available for everyone pretty quickly and people just want to get at you because they have nothing else to offer. Don't bother even considering these people or acknowledging them outside of not letting them smear you.
Angry tranny
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DeleteHey, anonymous asshole snowflake, grow a spine and get a life, maggot!
DeletePerhaps „Anonymous“ is deeply dissatisfied with himself, herself. I can’t judge whether this inner conflict might have something to do with an unresolved gender identity. Having a transsexual background myself, I might suspect the cause here. But it would definitely not be okay to blame others for an own dissatisfaction. I think, that person's dissatisfaction is not at all about Niran's BLACK DRAGON VIEWER.
DeleteDoes a transgender background be of matter anyway?
For me Niran took a lot of time when I had questions about his BLACK DRAGON VIEWER. And all his hints were very helpful for me! My gender identity was not at all of interest. So I am sure that Niran is not transphobic. And I find it not nice to accuse Niran for transphobia.
Don't let yourself get bullied Niran. You are doing a great job without getting paid for it and are a very thoughtful person. We need more people like you, who can conduct themselves rationally.
ReplyDeleteYou're entitled to your opinions much like everyone is entitled to disagree with them. Speak whatever you feel is necessary so long as you know you are subject to public scrutiny. You make a good viewer for photography so I doubt any calls for "boycotting" will stick at all however. Just because the product is great doesn't mean its creator isn't a piece of garbage. I know you make this project for free that doesn't make you any better of a person. You're disclaimer saying this is your viewer makes it perfectly clear you're not a charity. You're showing off. Which is fine. you do you but understand unpopular opinions will be met with unpopular reactions.
ReplyDeleteWhich is fine. I don't want or need anyone to agree with my opinion but I'd want people to stop turning everything into witch hunts for what is essentially just some pointless words that shouldn't mean anything to begin with.
DeleteThis whole thing was a massive discussion on the Discord and a pretty adult and healthy discussion too until someone got super butthurt and left.
As soon as you can do something that someone else can not do so well or not at all, envious people come on the scene (unfortunately! personal note).
ReplyDeleteI think you are doing a really good job and therefore don't let the envy, the hate or anything else get you off your path or unsettle you.
The whole stuff with the gender getue just annoying, to bring it to the point we are all human beings and ready (personal opinion)
MAch what you do further and you do super
I say thank you to your great work.
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I'm late to the party, and a friend is trying to get me into SL. Told me to try this viewer. Reading this. I get your point, but you got to understand also. Some people need to fight anyone who does not agree with them. The misery they feel they want to spread it to others.
ReplyDeleteI was not in the discord, So I don't know. I just know that my own personal dealings with people like this. If you disagree with them one time. You are a "transphobic biggot". Unlike them however, I don't need their approval or understanding to feel like I exist. It is very much ok to disagree with them. No matter gender, race, or whatever you want to be called. Your views of yourself does not and will never be used as a tool to bend others to your way of thinking.
That does not mean we can't be understanding, and we can't coexist. Heck I can even defend people who I don't agree with. Shocking right?
I will say this, these people who are attacking you. I doubt they want to read this, or even care. They have anger issues, and in a state of misery that they want you to feel bad as they are. I've dealt with these type of people often, and just laugh when I get called racist, or transphobic all because I don't think like they do.
The words have lost all meaning. In the state of the world as it is, people just want to fight. Even using logic on them will not work. They will just deflect.
Right and I fully agree with you. I'm fine with being called all kinds of things, its nothing new, I have my own opinion about things, I'm not fine however turning this whole thing into essentially a witch hunt, stockpiling rumors and shit to get someone shot down for having an opinion.
DeleteSadly though it always ends up like that. People like this can easily get others to agree with them, because more people out in the world want to start trouble and do that. So witch hunts and dog piles will keep coming at you, while the ones who will defend you, just don't want to get in the middle of it. (can't say I blame them on that. Dealing with the mob is annoying.)
DeleteYou kinda in a lose/lose type thing. You can tell them how you feel, and even say you have no ill intent, however that is never going to be good enough for the ones that has a speed dial for people to dog pile on you.
People are great eh? lol
Honestly, this entire post reads like a Youtuber apology, I am sorry but it isn't my fault type of thing. Just own up to your opinions, you clearly knew the difference between gender and sex since you mentioned it just after. "In my language it is like that so therefore it should be like that for everyone else" is what you seemed to imply right after. I don't hate you for having these opinions but own up to them and don't be someone who's doing a non-apology.
ReplyDeleteThis is not meant to take back what I said or apologize for my opinion. I still stand strong to my opinion, it is mine after all. I was just apologizing if what i said hurt anyone i wasn't trying to hurt. You're right that I'm aware that a difference between Gender and Sex exists but only because I was told right before. Gender and Sex have always been interchangeable for me and i have never understood why some games labeled it "Sex" and some "Gender" although in the context of these it in fact didn't make a difference. SL for instance calls it Sex internally.
DeleteBut again i'm solely apologizing for hurting anyone I didn't want to hurt, those transgender people that are normal people and just do their own thing, live their own life, like anyone else. I'm more upset about the very vocal part that gets extremely butthurt extremely fast.
SL is not a VG that is used solely by US citizens. So if for you in your country sex and gender are different and you can be a men biologically and feel like you are a extraterrestrial that has a dolphin complex as a gender it is your problem because you live in a sick society that allows that.
DeleteSadly, that kind of snowflake sick crystal personalities and way of thinking is spreading north to south, east to west. But luckly many remain like in the past. Two genders, two sexes.
Offended? I'm sorry. Go somewhere else.
I've spent a lot of time thinking about what I want to say to you. First, thank you for coming out and clarifying your opinion/intent, etc. I think it takes a lot for a person to take a step back and think about what they said. You're absolutely welcome to your opinion, no one can take that away from you. You can believe and say whatever you like, just know that not everyone is going to agree with you and you're going to find problematic responses no matter what opinion you hold. It is just the world that we live in.
ReplyDeleteSecond, like you, I used to hold a similiar opinion about Sex/Gender BUT I took the time (about 2 years) to talk to members of the trans community, I did online research, and schooling helped as well. I know there is a very clear difference between sex and gender and, without going too much into the weeds of it, I would encourage you to challenge yourself not to change your mind, but to at least educate yourself on society's view of sex versus gender. Again, I'm not asking you to change your mind, rather I am asking you to develop and understanding of what others see sex/gender as. They are not the same thing and being educated on what each is, is very important.
Lastly, I speak German. Yes, the same word is used for sex and gender. However, you are also cultured enough to know how Americans (and others around the globe) use sex and gender as two very very different things. And, if this is not the case, I would encourage you (again) to challenge yourself even though it is uncomfortable, and take time to learn the difference between sex and gender. Here is a short article from the Office for National Statistics referencing the World Health Organization with respect to definitions of sex and gender. https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/environmentalaccounts/articles/whatisthedifferencebetweensexandgender/2019-02-21
You can put your hands in the air, and say "it's just my opinion", but to do so is complacent. Challenge yourself and your thinking to see a different perspective. Again, I am not saying you have to agree or take a different stance, just learn something new.
I earnestly hope you grow from this experience and realize the profound impact you have on a large volume of users of your product. I wish you all the best and hope for a more positive outcome/experience in the future.
So to sum it up, you used to think trannies were gross, then you fucked one on SL and now you think differently so you can feel better about it. Gotcha.
Deleteit is not "society" it is just a group of people that try to change something that is not broken. For many of us, 2 genders, 2 sexes.
DeleteAgree also with anonymous response to you
xD
You're saying you specifically meant to target the transgender community, while you specifically called out nonbinary people as well for relatively no reason at all, and how it contributed to "safe-space-bubble society". Also, might i call out how you stated "... like you come shoving your special snowflake gender down my throat like it's important to your identity....". Our queerness (in my case being gender fluid) is just as important to us as straightness is to anyone straight. It permeates every part of our lives, because it reflects who we love, how we dress, how we carry ourselves around other people, just as much as anyones straightness does to them. Us celebrating ourselves (like during pride month) is not us shoving ourselves down your throat for being a people proud of who we are. And it's not us having shallow identities.
ReplyDeleteWhat I see here is your attempt at addressing the fact that biological sex is an important part of the identity of a trans person, in addition to what most people around me often call your "spirit", how your brain aligns (some people male, some female, some like me two-gender, and some non-gendered (androgynous/nonbinary)). And that statement is absolutely not wrong. Part of the trans existence, is "where you came from" and the trans friends and partners I've had over the years aren't ashamed of who they are, trans. It's a valid and important part of their journey, and makes up the person they've blossomed into (you can think of it like a caterpillar before it becomes a butterfly. The butterfly is certainly and unmistakably a butterfly, but part of their truth is having come from the caterpillar).
The issue here, is instead of addressing the trans existence as such, perhaps on purpose or perhaps not, you chose to use your platform with your customers (we all know you're making 400 dollars a month off this community so stop telling us how you slave for free), to feel a need to state your opinion that wrapped up as "it doesnt matter what you tell me you are, if there's a dick on it it's a male and i dont want you 'shoving down my throat' that you're anything but".
Its not clear if your definition changes if someone recieved bottom surgery, because you made it clear that instead of scientific sex (your chromosomes) you decided that it just mattered if someone had a hole or a stick. What it really boils down to for me, is that you aren't queer, and you really don't understand it. That itself is not the sin here. The sin is you taking to a platform to invalidste the existence of your consumers (https://twitter.com/TokeliDeer/status/1478897631913037824?s=20 -need i say more). You're stating that the community NEEDS to hear your opinions on this, because it's important to you that we all know what you think about our existence, but in the same breath you gaslight our anger by stating you "like us all just the way we are", akin to a "im sorry you feel upset" apology.
DeleteWe don't want an apology. We don't want to hear you say that you're sorry that we hated it. We want you to view our existence as valid, scientific, and true. And if you don't, then we want you to have the gracefulness to not feel a need to stake your flag in the mountain and die on that hill for absolutely no reason at all when no one asked you. We want your words (that you respect us) to reflect your actions (not feeling a need to very publically use your pedestal to contribute to misinformation about who we are).
At the end of the day, all you needed to say here was that you shouldn't have preached to us and it was an improper use of your position (with great power comes great responsibility? i guess thats only true for spider man). It DOES matter what you say when you're given a platform. You're entitled to what you think, but what you choose to advertise is a choice.
And the cherry on top of all of this:
You're crying that you have a right to have an opinion and retain our respect. But your words say anything but back to us.
"Because if your gender all that is your identity than you have much bigger problems than me not respecting you." - you
"But people over the past decade or two have become so crazy and annoying, shoving everyone their gender, race and religion down their throats as if it is their defining (or any defining), part of their personality, it pisses me off and makes me want to nuke humanity even more." -you again, bringing in race and religion too cause why not die on three hills
Our identities. are. important.
They matter.
They (or your choice to not identify in an area or have multiple identities) make us who we are, and shape how we see and interact with our worlds. They're not stupid or insignificant. We're not shallow for celebrating our truths. We're not shallow for loving ourselves (gender, race, or religion included, since you wanted to add that spice to the pot).
https://www.instagram.com/mattxiv/p/CRubqLxDgPF/?utm_medium=copy_link
- Asheson MacCaise (ashesonwolfe / ashesonmaccaise#4705)
^ Just to make a point that I'm not trying to be anonymous and I stand by this 100%
Maybe i'm misunderstanding this but you seem to be thinking at first that i make gender an important part of the identity then however it sounds like i'm not.
DeleteTo clear this up and to address the respect issue.
I respect people having their own opinion and I respect people no matter what they are but I don't agree to how social genders work or that this concept exists, nor do i agree that gender, be it social or biological is in any way part of your identity. I think that the "You" the very core personality that you are is independent of your gender, a gender should never be your identity nor part of it. Regardless of whether I'm a man or a woman or anything in between and regardless of what I think I am it does not change my personality, it doesn't change my opinion. That is how it should be, if you think your gender is a part of your identity, and that's your right to think that way but it really isn't my problem then if this means that you think I don't respect you (or part of your identity), since you make it a part of your identity, not me. I can respect you regardless of what or who you are but as far as i can see by your definition someone (me) cannot fully respect you because of their opinion. So in order to respect you according to your definition I'd have to change my opinion, not just shift it slightly but essentially dump it completely and say the same thing you are saying. To me this sounds like manipulation and essentially boils down to "shoving it down my throat" again, since you rob my of my own opinion, you'd be forcing me to accept your opinion as my own otherwise it would mean I don't respect you (or invalidate you). Any and all invalidation comes from people making it an invalidation I do not invalidate anyone's life, I treat everyone as a human on the same level, both above and below... although I have to say I do still have a hard time treating higher ups the same sometimes, obviously I do not want to sound disrespectful to someone I admire so I tend to be a little nicer than usual until I know that they don't mind.
Invalidating someone's identity is pretty disrespectful. You may not think gender or sex is important to someone's identity, but for trans people, many certainly think it is. If you're showing someone respect in every single way except one, you're still disrespecting them. You are entitled to your opinions, just as people are entitled to theirs. It's unfortunate that you hold the opinions you do, and that you used your public platform to make comments invalidating the identities of a sizeable portion of your consumer-base. That's where all this backlash is coming from, Niran. You hold a position of power among the community you've fostered, and the comments you made hold weight. People look up to you, and many of those people have now been directly alienated and hurt by the words you chose to say about people like them. To a lot of people, the comments you made essentially boil down to, "I, that person you look up to, don't view your gender as valid, and think you're too sensitive about it." People have a right to be upset with you, and this "sorry you were hurt" non-apology is frustrating, to say the least.
DeleteThis is pretty much the most based and constructive explanation i've heard so far.
DeleteI'm sorry if anyone looked up to me, i'm really not a person to look up to. I'm just an ordinary person like any other and i do act like one. I don't hold much value in seeing popular or even remotely successful people as "greater" or "bigger" people, once again they are just people too.
I agree that people are upset and I do understand that they are but once again there was no reason to attempt to turn this immediately into a witch hunt that goes to twitter. Approaching me personally would have been a much better solution but often we take the easier choice I guess.
But it doesn't change what I think or what my opinion is. As much as it pains people will have to accept that I have a different opinion, like many others do but they also have to understand that my opinion is not important, not when my actions speak a whole different language.
I could apply this very behavior to everything else and I'm sure there are people out there I'd see as respected person and yet they hold an opinion that invalidates me as Furry. As much as I have to accept (not agree) that there are people who don't see me or what I do as valid, so will others have to that I have an opposing opinion about their gender. I could go on for long about this but the fact remains that I cannot change my opinion, not due to harassment, not due to social pressure and not anything else, that's why its my opinion after all but as such should hold no weight, its just an opinion, it doesn't define what I do.
I agree that it might have been the wrong place to post but that was the reason what I wrote was written into the #Offtopic channel, because it is something that does not belong into neither the Viewer discussion nor SL discussion, that is what #Offtopic is for after all. It wasn't coming out of nowhere either, another user made a statement "boobs + vagina = female" is oof because it would automatically assume a gender according to your biological features, which prompted me to answer to said statement which then quickly turned into a discussion when I presented my opinion about this matter, ultimately resulting in said person leaving the server and calling everyone a bigot.
"I'm sorry if anyone looked up to me, i'm really not a person to look up to."
DeleteThen shut the fuck up. You could've just not said anything from the get go, but you opened your fucking transphobic mouth and now you've opened that box. There isn't any closing it now, shitbag.
" nor do i agree that gender, be it social or biological is in any way part of your identity." I strongly agree with that.
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"Then shut the fuck up." no, you go ahead and do that.
People has opinions, you snowflake
Your identity isn't important to everyone I guess? I know..! It sucks right? But some people just don't care haha. Sorry... xD
ReplyDeleteYou can only be responsible for what you say, not what someone else understands; that is their responsibility. So if they don't want to take the time to understand, before lashing out, then that is on them. Not on you.
ReplyDeleteImagine, To wake up and realize that apologizing to these "Gotcha" Type attitudes on SL is wrong. Shame on the person for screencapping and being an immature child and before speaking to you. Before they threw a tantrum.
ReplyDeleteThey're the reason why everyone is walking thin-lines now-a-days. It's that twitter crowd that consistently bullies anyone with a differing opinion into submission.
To the idiot who got ass-mad without even consulting you before blowing it up as if your opinions don't matter, Well clearly it did because you have your OWN discord to talk about your OWN shit. It's not their DISCORD. and furthermore they could leave if they have a fucking problem with it.
Well i'm not apologizing to "them". I'm apologizing to those that just go their way, don't bother others and don't mean to hurt anyone, they essentially get the shaft every single time because of this over sensible vocal crowd that keeps attacking and starting drama to make everyone submissive to their beliefs.
DeleteMy friends are a wild mix of basically all kinds of "different" people. My chillout group is all gay/lesbian, my best friend is now trans, everyone is a furry. All of them tell me that these people are just crazy and if anything they are the reason the "innocent" people always get the hate they do and i can totally understand that but then again all my friends are not as sensible, they don't start attacking people over their opinions and neither do they when you say something against their sexuality or beliefs, they accept it as your opinion and just move on, like everyone should. Most of them even joke about themselves all the time, i mean i make fun of being a furry too.
What disappointed me the most about this whole thing going down was a known face Draxtor jumping in on this as well, not so much that the usual faces just start another anti-Niran thing. They are even calling out to bloggers to cover this, essentially starting a campaign against me, quite sad to be honest.
Just like with most things however it will just die out i guess, sad to see still but it will pass.
J. K. Rowling? Is that you? Oh, no. It's just another transphobic piece of shit trying to play Laura Leech's best hits as a professional victim.
ReplyDeleteFuck off.
What the hell happened?
DeleteWhat happened? Another person who didn't want to read or understand what my post is about, apparently thinking I'm backpedaling on what I said and attempting to use it as proof for their already set opinion fueled solely by hate (or social pressure, or both). In short: a hater or a sheep.
DeleteYes, I'm a hater because I despise a fucking transphobic nazi. It's all over twitter, dude.
ReplyDeleteFuck. Off.
You're done, it's over.
What's over Twitter? My opinion? If I was transphobic I'd drop my best friend and if I was a Nazi you'd have heard me go against all kinds of people already. How come there has never been a single instance of me attacking, ignoring or leaving/dropping a person because of their gender, sexuality, skin color, country, political side or anything like that? How come people get help regardless of all of these and how come I talk to all of these people regardless of these things? How about bringing some actual factual proof before buying into some drama people are stirring up on Twitter and spitting it everywhere as "proof". Twitter, out of all the places.
DeleteGo ask all the users I've helped, go ask all the people I've spent hours debugging issues with, go ask the people I talk to every day. I'm sure they will tell you how much of a transphobic Nazi I am! Ah sorry, right... they don't mean jack shit don't they, they are biased aren't they? Maybe they even agree, does that make them transphobic Nazi's too? Is that how you solve all your issues nowadays?
Please dilate
DeleteDon't worry Niran, this tranny will probably off himself any day and all his hate for you dies with him.
Delete"I'm not transphobic! I have a trans friend!"
ReplyDeleteNice microaggression there. The proof was in what you physically wrote in your discord. Not to mention the slew of other shit you've been pulling over the years.
Helping people doesn't forgive the fact that you're an abusive asshat.
The "proof" is nothing but my opinion, what I think, not what I do. Now I'm also abusive, wow! Let me guess I'm abusing my users now and my Viewer and my powers for my own benefit! More unproven shit!
DeleteWhat slew of other things have I been pulling? More things I've said? If you are talking about me getting into trouble with LL a couple times, I should remind you that every single instance of me getting into trouble was for the good of my users or SL as a whole, examples are -> getting the attachment offset fixed (and getting banned for reopening Jira not accepting it being ignored), improving the Poser and getting the attention of its potential to LL (and potentially getting thrown out of the TPVD for being able to pose others), getting into trouble with Oz for touching the complexity calculation to get them to look into it (finally), getting a warning and a threat to be thrown out of TPVD for old-style windlight preset system that just like the old system doesn't have permissions (obviously, because they are local). Each and every time I've been risking my Viewer for improvements.
If you can't bring any physical proof of me actually being transphobic (or a Nazi for that matter) then don't bring it up. And if you like to take things I say for granted, how about you take this for granted: I'm not a racist, sexist, nazi or transphobe, neither are the users that support me nor is anyone who agrees with me.
Niran use this as a lesson, that you cannot argue with trannies because they are all (every single one of them) deranged, just ignore them, do what you want, say what you want, disregard the trannies, the only power they have over you is what you give them.
DeleteI don't believe every single one of them is deranged, unless you mean the bad group of trans people with "trannies". I've met some very nice and normal trans people who don't go shoving their gender down my throat and are fine with me not wanting to accept the social gender thing. It's all a matter of how they go about it, I don't go out and shove my weird furry shit down everyone's throat either.
DeleteI think these communities are filled way too much with whiteknights, evil, destructive and manipulative people who just want to abuse the community and their social power for their own good much at the cost of those who are just part of the community for the whole social aspect and not feeling alone. It's really sad.
And this is proof enough that you cannot have a conversation, Tobias. "They're shoving it down my throat", while being complacent with someone literally using hate speech.
DeleteThis is why people are boycotting your shit, shit-bag. It's really sad that you're that stupidly daft. Honestly, I don't know what's worse, your transphobic rhetoric, your transphobic+nazism leanings, or just your sad, pathetic attempt at trying to justify this shit. But hey, you got the support you're looking for, right? Some joe-blow in the bottom of his parents basement licking the dorito dust off of his fingers.
Honestly, you're probably racist too. I wouldn't doubt it.
I'd slap you, but shit splatters. You're transphobic, abusive, and now that you got caught you're doubling down. Screenshots were worth a thousand words to prove you're a trash human being, Tobias.
ReplyDeleteGet. Fucked.
Screenshots of incomplete conversations... They are worth nothing.
DeleteIf you want, go join the Discord, search the conversations and read them whole.
If you don't want, don't do it. Stay without knowing the whole thing. But it's your own decision.
With knowing the whole, just don't judge people.
Who are you going to slap with your tranny wrists puss?
DeleteWords words words but no meaning behind them
DeleteAll the sick people gather in this post..
DeleteMan..!!
If your don't like Niran's opinions you should stay away from his work.
And go to therapy. It will suit you right.
Dont let the mad troons get to you.
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ReplyDeleteStay on your path, Niran! ✿ The less you mess with those who keep bitching, the more time you can enjoy with reasonable people & with reasonable things.
ReplyDelete"Keep supporting, transphobes!" ~Said this delusional Flora asshat
Deleteanonymous hater. go to therapy and see what's happening with you and the "phobe"
DeleteThe first part of your statement is the truest representation of basic human rights. People are so damn sensitive about everything. If they are truly are as comfortable with who and what they claim they are then nothing anyone says would bother them. We all need to learn how to respect one another's opinions and stop turning everything into something worse.
ReplyDeleteRight, because 'opinions that invalidate people's existence' is totally and socially acceptable.
DeleteLet me ask you a question;
Were your parents related before they were married? Because your stupidity is just as bad as Tobias's there. He can't even form a sentence on this shit without being transphobic or a transphobic apologist. You? Right there with him.
"Right, because 'opinions that invalidate people's existence' is totally and socially acceptable." you are so sick and weak that needs someone else validation. That's lame and pathetic.
DeleteTHERAPY. GO. NOW.
"Screenshots of incomplete conversations... They are worth nothing."
ReplyDeleteThey're complete enough to prove Tobias is a fucking shit person who doesn't deserve any credibility without accountability. I hope the bloggers do drag this TERFy piece of shit through the mud. It's the least he deserves.
They don't include the whole entire conversation after the person left, they don't even include the part that started it (as the poster itself says, they don't know where it come from), it certainly didn't come out of nowhere. Something like this I'd never just randomly say.
DeleteBloggers are not going to do anything because unlike Twitter they have their credibility to lose and basing any assumptions on mere words (and not even all of them) without ever even coming to me and asking for a clarification from my side to make sure it wasn't just worded badly, they would show zero creditability. Also they don't interfere in personal matters.
But what makes you a better person? Coming here, on my blog, into my place, attacking and insulting me, if all that matters are words (and not even all of them) then those few words you've been throwing around here are reason enough to believe that you are an intolerant piece of shit, so what gives what you say.
Did I fucking stutter, Transphobe?
DeleteYou, saying they'll lose all credibility if they comment on this? You? A transphobic nazi piece of shit? That's a good joke, sweetie, tell me another Tobias. Oh wait, you are the joke.
What gives a transphobic piece of shit any authority over anything? Especially one who pedo-poses people?
Also I love these Firestorm pics. Transphobic Dragon is just a thing of the past. Just like you. So why don't you make like your hairline and recede?
It's ironic that you're talking like transphobia makes you a saint too. Fucking nazi.
Delete"They won't interfere in personal matters"
ReplyDelete*Many proceed to flip to Firestorm for their blogging pictures now.*
Get fucked.
There's only 4 blogs worth reading, one has already stopped over a year ago, the other 3, New World Notes, Nalates Blog and Modemworld all used Firestorm before, they have not changed a thing. What gives if random bloggers change Viewers, they do this all the time, they often don't even give any feedback and if they do its often just on their blog which is a place I'm never going to see making any and all feedback worthless if I never see it.
DeleteOh, so you're gonna name drop four blogs while keeping in the delusion that you're still somehow relevant, Transphobic-Tobias?
DeleteDon't answer that sweetheart, it's rhetorical. You seem incapable of understanding how this works, which is surprising given that you 'develop' things. It's a shame you can't do that with a personality, but given what else many have shared about you, it's not surprising.
Oh and if you're 'not transphobic' or a nazi, you should probably clear the actual transphobic shit on your blog, Tobias. You're not fucking fooling anyone who's ACTUALLY credible. You aren't. Get fucked.
ReplyDeleteWhat transphobic shit? The fuck are you talking about. What's on this blog that is transphobic? The people here who have the balls to openly say they don't care? The people insulting back after being insulted from people like you? Just because you call it transphobe doesn't make it transphobe.
DeleteGiven that some comments are very questionable, I could say the same about basically every single comment of yours. If I had to remove anything even "remotely transphobe" by your definition I'd have to remove the entire conversation and lock comments. I deliberately chose not to lock comments on this blog post because as I stated I'm open for discussion. Deleting or locking comments would be extremely hypocritic, since I said I won't censor, I'm not public media. Not to mention locking comments is exactly what you'd want isn't it? So you can say oh look Niran locks comments so no one can say anything bad!
Oh, but you're probably too chickenshit to do it. Because those people will ACTUALLY support you after you basically revealed yourself to be a transphobic nazi supporter. Credibility?
ReplyDeleteDELUSIONS. Coooooooooonvince yourself!
Too chickenshit to do what? What the hell are you on about. Has your insulting spree destroyed your last few remaining brain cells needed to press the reply button to make an actual fucking continued conversation that someone who's not as mad as you be able to be followed?
Delete"Given that some comments are very questionable, I could say the same about basically every single comment of yours."
ReplyDeleteI'm not the one shitting where I eat, transphobe. Delete my comments for all I care, if you want to actually have some credibility? Take accountability instead of being a transphobic nazi apologist piece of shit that probably should've been the load that was swallowed.
But keep on with your high horse delusions. I'll wait until you actually have something of substance, of matter to say. Until then, we won't have a conversation and I'll continue to call you what you are;
A transphobic nazi piece of shit who's too chickenshit to take accountability into their own hands. But for one as limited as you, I'm not surprised. Transphobes don't learn new tricks.
Because until you delete those comments, any of this "I want to have a conversation" is disingenuous as fuck. You don't want to have a conversation, you want people to support your anti-LGBT agenda. You're never going to have any sort of conversation with that shit up. There's a difference between censoring and keeping up blatant hate speech. "I don't believe in censoring" is such a crock of shit that you may as well just eat from your own shitter. Because that's what that tells me, you're incapable of true conversation.
DeleteSo go ahead, tell your delusional lies like you usually do. There's a reason why you've been banned from several sandbox sims and their proof is compelling enough to prove you're a sick piece of shit anyway.
Three months late but dropping by to make a comment after reading some pretty insane attacks on Niran.
ReplyDeleteI have met or spoken directly to Niran a total of.... one time. I was having some issues with things that seemed exclusive to his viewer and sent him a random IM and expecting an eventual realy or maybe a referral to a webpage.
Within minutes i got a "hello" and Niran asked to be TP's to me. Having been entrained by his ranting over the years i was thinking "oh no! here it comes!" To the contrary. Niran was very polite and i would dare say even sweet in his effort to help what actually turned out to be an issue I was creating, not his viewer. After resolving the issue, Niran actually stated around and educated me, showing me things like wireframing my Mesh body and letting me see the strains that it put on rendering. He was polite , helpful and very friendly. He provided much more help than i have ever received from a Linden - a group i pay monthly for a little help!
Two important things to consider about this meeting. One, my avi was clearly a female with male "parts" and Niran made no distinguishing remarks and in no way treated me in a way he would treat anyone else. Second, Niran clearly knew my name at the time because I had been complaining about him forever (and still do) because he keeps the linden amount hidden in the inventory window on his viewer. Which I still say is stupid and should at least be an option damnit! None of my previous negative comments on this issue kept Niran from being professional and kind towards me. Any claim that is bias toward any gender, sex or specie is complete total bullshit! I also one to bop him on the head when he argues that the Sl viewer should work like a video game viewer. However I am currently not make a viewer of my own and Niran is, so Niran wins.
Is Niran a little "crazy"? Yes. I love his rants and look forward to his blog posts where he says exactly what he thinks when he is frustrated over what he views as bad or lazy design. Clearly he LOVE his viewer project and he takes it serious, and he does not have much tolerance for other non related BS. He will treat you exactly as you treat him, and if you come at him with snide comments, prefer for what you get.
Also, I have seen Niran attacked SO HARD in so many forums, from the old SL Universe forum, the Firestorm Forum and now, even on his own Discord which HE makes available. Niran is a nice person ,but he does not suffer fools lightly and he is not above standing up for himself and confess, i get a humorous kick watching him get so exasperated as he is trying his best to explain his point with people who have no interesting in hearing him.
Also, Niran's point about his being very native German speaker with a rudimentary basic grasp of English is a legitimate point. Trying to express a delicate point or opinion in a language is not your own, is like walking through a mind field and i dare say that some of his english speaking critics could not do half as good in German as Niran does in English. Again, it come down to Niran makes the fucking effort!
Niran, to you i say keep being your crazy, genius self. Don't let the bastards get you down and thank you for being willing to share YOUR viewer with the public - for free! You are still kind of a dick for hiding the linden amount in the invetory window but, after have observed all the BS personal attacks on you over years and years, I want to announce that i am becoming a patreon support of the viewer. it is money i really don;t have but it is high time we ALL realsied that there is no legitimate reason for anyone to be using this viewer for free and not giving something back. The silly BS that Niran has to put up just to make his viewer the way he would like, and the added stress he gets form making it available to us merits some support.
Well said...
DeleteYo its Debby Ethaniel and just logged on after god knows how long... irritating to see the toxic side of secondlife is still bloody going strong I feel sorry for ya with how the fandom can be here and those that went on a witch hunt are more to blame for everything wrong with the fandom.
ReplyDeletePlenty of comments calling you a transphobe here as well... fucking hell people get a bloody grip and clean your own nappies for a change... I have never seen anything that Niran has said to be transphobic but plenty that would butthurt you bloody snowflakes... HAH most if not all of you do not even dare to use your in world names in this chat because you know I am right and you know YOU are what is wrong with the fandom and LGBTQ community.
ReplyDeleteI could say: "i can't believe people were insulted because of gender/sex issue" but nop!! you work for a viewer that it is not the only one for using SL, so people can choose any other viewer out there if they feel the need.
ReplyDeleteI live in a country really down south America, so, I speak spanish and don't mind this black/white issue, the gender and pronouns. No teacher is obligated using them or else. US is full of psychologically challenged people. Crystal feelings. In this internet you definitely won't find a speach that is comfortable for every netizen. So I wonder WHY you respond to those sick (yes, sick) people. That way you encourage their problem, and it is a problem what they have. You don't have it in your country, and many people use SL, that has many cultures and languages, so don't mind those few that try to rotten the rest and make so much noise that looks like they are much more than what they really are. Just a few crystal special feelings people.
Again, please don't mind them and go on with your life, create good stuff and be happy, because you won't make happy the rest, specially that rest.
Please don't mind what they say about you. Those are insults, and you were not insulting anyone. And you have the right to have an opinion as the rest of us.
Cancel culture is sh!t and has to stop!!! This is your software and your blog and your discord. Stop that people making a sick environment for the rest.
This isn't exactly a response to those people, it is more of a clarification for those people that feel they need to go down the road of being trans (which is fine, i'm basically halfway there too with wanting to be a women) not to mention i have friends of all kinds this includes a best friend who's trans (even she thinks this is retarded) but i do respect people who just keep it to themselves, who just go about their lives and as long as they don't shove it down anyone's throat they can be whatever they want, i do not treat anyone different because of what they feel like, but i will treat them with hostility if they start this cancel culture bullshit or try to force it upon others. Me treating everyone equally regardless of gender, race, sexuality or whatever is more than they will ever get from most people so i don't understand what they still want, if anything this behavior only makes me treat them like lesser people (given they do it enough). Essentially the post boils down to "i don't care what you are and i'm sorry for anyone i might have accidentally dragged into this who isn't part of the toxic part of the community (in other words the aforementioned people that go about their life)" regardless of them being "good" people they might still have felt insulted which wasn't my intend, i was solely sharing my opinion on a topic that came up.
DeleteI agree it is sad that i even came to write this post in the first place but i agreed with my users that it would be the best to clarify my intends so everyone can build their opinion on that rather than some twitter trash screenshots.
I just noticed you published a post on this issue and I avoided Discord for not wanting to see people's basic integrity and identity discussed like it is a debatable topic.
ReplyDeleteIt is for everyone to decide whatever parts and elements make them - them. It can be your ethnicity, your culture, your religion, your experiences in life, your hobbies, your political agenda and so on. However, while some invite discussion such as sharing elements of your culture or debating politics - others do not, such as ethnicity (which could be a complex and mixed one but generally we relate to it on a basic level), gender, sexual orientation and so on. Questioning people on things deeply personal to them and undermining them is pretty nasty and I get you were not trying to do so but at the same time, you are not replying to inexcusable troll comments.
You say that it is because you do not recognise gender as a part of a person which is fine as long as you apply it to just yourself as we all have different ideas on how gender works for us and how we use it to react with others. Let me present you with an example that serves as an equivalent for me and just me. I was born severely disabled and still am - to me it is an essential part of my identity that greatly influences how I interact with others. In theory, you could say disability is created by society not adapting to different people, therefore, creating the problem but this would just be your interpretation. To question if someone is disabled, and ponder how they should properly express it is nefarious. This is exactly how it is with gender - to view others through your theory is disrespecting people's wishes because I certainly do not wish to be seen as genderless and me being a gay bloke is also a big part of me. You can express your beliefs on your ID and EGO (of the philosophical kind) and wonder if it applies to others and respectfully discusses it saying your version works for you and you want to hear how others see it.
I understand you did not wish to create conflict but you inspired others to do so it seems. Apologies are unnecessary if you actually realise you are in the wrong and change. The best saying I know is that we as humans are have free will as long as our will does not breach other person's freedom.
He's not wrong, he simply has a different PoV. He is decent about it and there is no more needed.
DeleteWell technically my PoV doesn't matter. I treat everyone the same. How i treat people depends on how they approach me, not on who or what they are. If their first approach consists of immediately slapping me their pronouns into my face i will treat them as such, meaning as idiot. Your gender, religion, ethnicity or anything like that should not be your first word and neither the first thing about you, ever. It is simply reducing people to just that, it's the same as someone approaching me and immediately starting the conversation with "Furry", what follows is almost never good.
DeleteThe problem is that what we generally interact with others based on our history, knowledge, personality and a million different factors so we do not come as blank slates. Whenever we approach a new person - we do not know anything about them as they do not about us. We navigate new situations based on the past thus folks declaring their pronouns probably do that because it had been an issue before. Or it is simply important to them such as introducing yourself with a name which we all do anyway. To me, there is basic notions that make people ... well people that cannot be questioned unless it is by them themselves so it is not for me to judge their gender expression (and same to them). But, subjectively and internally of course I will judge because we are judgemental creatures by nature so if my judgement is wrong and I incorrectly assumed someone is a man or a woman - I'd be grateful for correction albeit it is my mistake and not on them to correct it. I do get what you mean by people narrowing you to a certain box but the box is still here and will not vanish.
DeleteSorry to use disability as an example again but it is useful as I have a visible one so it serves as a great comparison. If I meet anyone new - they clearly see my general shape and state of me and make assumptions which is normal because I do same. If I request them to move to the side because of my wheelchair and them being in a doorframe or such - them going "this is not the best theoretical use of the push-buggy-thingy" would make me double check and tell them to stay out of it as it is not a discussion subject. Then, if they go making rounds and analysing my use of the wheelchair and how they should or should not respond to me or if my reaction was ridiculous - I will not sit there and be a decoration ornament.
In other words - in your post you acknowledge that people see things different than you but at the same time - you say that all experiences are the same when they are really not and should not be. Your opinion of gender is valid for you but others might see it differently. As someone who likes English because it can be neutral and I do not have to accidentally assume the car is a lady while the owner insists it is a boy. My German skills are almost vanished as never practiced but my Polish skills make me regret learning it as the floor is a woman while the ceiling is gender-neutral. You mentioned your problem with pronouns stemming from linguistic differences and as you see - some actually like it different and again - it is fine. I knew women who were much older than me and opted to use the 'transvestite' or 'crossdresser' terms while being neither but growing up with these words.
I guess, I like diversity of opinions so having some snuffed out makes it feel like I warped to Poland and got dragged into the deep dungeon of alt-right. I know it is not your intent but I tend to look at what people say as a bigger picture forming from media, interactions and whatnot they consume. Currently, the trend of calling people out on mistakes is labled as cancelling and I am going to assume the person sharing screenshots of that talk was just annoyed and wanted someone to be annoyed with them. But people change and grow so no one really is ever canceller, right? Nor is any social norm or interpretation etched in stone therefore - current banhammer on questioning history or culture because it is supposed part of some woke agenda is ... the same old song of people in power wishing everyone divided to rule them easier.
I guess we agree to disagree but I wish people still seen disagreements as enrichening.
Firstly, you claim that the criticism you are facing is solely due to your personal opinion, and that anyone is free to have their own opinions. While it is true that everyone is entitled to their opinions, expressing them in a way that is hurtful or harmful towards a particular group of people is not acceptable.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, you acknowledge making mistakes in your communication and generalizing certain groups of people, but you also suggest that innocent people have been insulted due to your lack of clarity. This implies that the harm caused by your statements is not entirely your fault, which is not a responsible or genuine apology.
Thirdly, you use language barriers as an excuse for not being clear enough in his communication. While it is true that language barriers can cause confusion, it is still your responsability is to make sure that your statements are not hurtful or harmful to any particular group of people.
FURTHERMORE:
It is true that German, like many other languages, does not have a widely accepted non-binary pronoun. However, it is important to note that there are efforts underway to introduce new pronouns in the German language that are gender-neutral, such as "xier" and "si" Additionally, some non-binary people in German-speaking countries may use pronouns such as "they/them" in English or other gender-neutral pronouns from other languages, or may choose to use no pronouns at all.
While you may have experienced difficulty in differentiating between the terms "gender" and "sex" due to the lack of differentiation in the German language, it is still important to recognize and respect diverse gender identities and experiences. Using appropriate pronouns and language is one way to demonstrate respect for people of all gender identities, and there are resources available for those who are unfamiliar with or uncertain about gender-neutral language.
You can clearly see the result of your inaction in the comments of this statement, People calling each other "Trannies" using dog whistles for various calls to violence. If you are honestly sorry, pull yourself up by your boot straps, issue an honest apology and clean up your comments. As for the nerds who are going to try and start shit with me, sorry I triggered you, Loser. :^)